01:08 Matt traces three phases in McCain’s ideological development
08:05 Ramesh on settling for Mr. Good Enough
12:30 McCain’s scary foreign policy
26:02 Are Christian “agents of intolerance” going to tolerate McCain?
36:15 Libertarians to Republicans: You don’t bring us flowers anymore
48:26 Looking forward to an ineffective presidency
Matt Welch (Reason, The Declaration of Independents) and Ramesh Ponnuru (National Review, Bloomberg View)
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